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tax rates in a heartbeat if i could get the clinton spending rates. but neither side wants to talk about spending. it's not a deal to me if they're not going to talk about spending. same tax rates. >> i agree with you, eric. i think you're right. i wrote about that, too. but i think the president now, he's sort of signaled that he may be looking for some wiggle room here. later this afternoon he said that he wanted the tax rate cut now and he would be happy to look at lowering them again in a bigger package, but i agree with you. i think we have to get serious about these spending cuts. i just applied for social security and i want mine. >> all right. rich, appreciate it. eric, thanks. let us know what you think. follow me on twitter. @andersoncooper. i'm tweeting tonight. >>> just ahead, 21 months after bashir al assad began killing his own people, the fighting is raging in syria. the rest of the world may finally be convinced things are critical there. senator john mccain is asking what took so long. we'll tell you about what just changed. more from
tax rates in a heartbeat if i could get the clinton spending rates. but neither side wants to talk about spending. it's not a deal to me if they're not going to talk about spending. same tax rates. >> i agree with you, eric. i think you're right. i wrote about that, too. but i think the president now, he's sort of signaled that he may be looking for some wiggle room here. later this afternoon he said that he wanted the tax rate cut now and he would be happy to look at lowering them again...
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president obama often talks about returning to clinton era tax rates. he wants to raise much more revenue from high earners than the clinton era tax code would have raised. and president clinton also dramatically lowered capital gains taxes, and that generally benefited high-earners. so a lot of folks believe that's something that balanced out against the increases on ordinary income. so, you know, that's something that arguably contributed to that surge in technology stocks and much else that created surpluses in the latter half of the clinton presidency. it's a more complicated picture. definitely there are folks who want tax increases but let's not gloss over president obama is talking about way higher taxes than we saw during the clinton era on the high earners. >> that's true. all right. want to talk about a party going on tonight. james, pretty good. there is a party going on, jack kemp foundation is having a party and marco rubio is speaking. paul ryan is speaking. they both want to have complete makeovers. you know -- marco rubio doesn't want to
president obama often talks about returning to clinton era tax rates. he wants to raise much more revenue from high earners than the clinton era tax code would have raised. and president clinton also dramatically lowered capital gains taxes, and that generally benefited high-earners. so a lot of folks believe that's something that balanced out against the increases on ordinary income. so, you know, that's something that arguably contributed to that surge in technology stocks and much else that...
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i'm not saying they'd do every detail. >> so was gingrich and clinton. >> and clinton and gingrich evolved into that kind of relationship. and i must say the president has done a poor job. he did a poor job last year and he's done a poor job this year. two days after the election, boehner came up with a tax revenue plan. very controversial in his party. he said, let's cap deductions and loopholes and leave the race alone because that help growth. that was $800 billion. it shocked a lot of republicans. and he got nothing. he got, you know, nothing from obama. and i think that started the bad blood. and i think the president -- >> good point. they both got to learn the art of negotiation. >> we haven't heard from democrats in the senate. i'm going to guarantee you that the democrats in the senate are going to be split on this business of who's rich and what the right tax rates are going to be. >> i have to leave it there, chaps. nick, larry, thank you both much, indeed. >>> coming up next, kerry kennedy joins me about fame, politics and most important of all, taylor swift. like a lot of thin
i'm not saying they'd do every detail. >> so was gingrich and clinton. >> and clinton and gingrich evolved into that kind of relationship. and i must say the president has done a poor job. he did a poor job last year and he's done a poor job this year. two days after the election, boehner came up with a tax revenue plan. very controversial in his party. he said, let's cap deductions and loopholes and leave the race alone because that help growth. that was $800 billion. it shocked a...
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. >> secretary of state clinton's concern as nbc reports that syria is developing gas. joining us welcome to you both. this is pretty serious. you have been in syria. is it actually news. or are the pentagon briefing this is a reality? i noticed that cnn reported something similar. there seem to be more reports that chemicals for nerve gas are being united. >> there is i lot of reporting now and i don't know near as much as nick does on this topic. that they kcame in. i asked him during our show, was there any movement of these weapons, because i agree with what nick said, they have been there, was there movement because it would be dangerous. i said no, not yet. movement i think implies that we are going to send aircraft into hit them. >> if he tries to use chemical weapons on his people it will do somethi something. >> i don't think we are being duped now. there is a big difference between now and 2003. >> i don't think we have any idea. they are not going to be helpful now. it is hard to see how they would advance his cause. he is clearly not a stupid man. >> if you
. >> secretary of state clinton's concern as nbc reports that syria is developing gas. joining us welcome to you both. this is pretty serious. you have been in syria. is it actually news. or are the pentagon briefing this is a reality? i noticed that cnn reported something similar. there seem to be more reports that chemicals for nerve gas are being united. >> there is i lot of reporting now and i don't know near as much as nick does on this topic. that they kcame in. i asked him...
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i want to ask you about -- men like david petraeus, bill clinton, they pay a big price for their "immoral" behavior. but you won by a significant margin. why do we say one thing and then do another? >> i don't believe that my election was anything about the morality issue. if you look at the mustang ranch in story county, it's a wonderful corporate citizen, a lot of giving, a lot of gifting, take care of the seniors and the kids and backpacks. when it came down to the bottom line of voting, the mustang ranch is a real positive in story county. as a matter of fact, the brothels in the rural counties are positives in the state. my election -- i was elected on a business platform. and for 45 years, i've developed four communities of 2,500 acres or larger. i'm a community builder. i've owned harley stores and marine stores. i've been a general contractor. >> you're a job creator? >> i'm a job creator, a community creator. so the folks here in story county look upon me as a business developer, as a community builder, a lot of revenue generated. and then the next level is that i do a lot for th
i want to ask you about -- men like david petraeus, bill clinton, they pay a big price for their "immoral" behavior. but you won by a significant margin. why do we say one thing and then do another? >> i don't believe that my election was anything about the morality issue. if you look at the mustang ranch in story county, it's a wonderful corporate citizen, a lot of giving, a lot of gifting, take care of the seniors and the kids and backpacks. when it came down to the bottom...
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when he talked about the popularity of bill clinton. that's not because of the color of clinton's eyes or the cut of his suit suits, that's bought cn had real economic growth that benefited most people. you have to keep your eye on that prize. what is going to be our answer as republicans to the party of raising living standards for most people. >> we have no idea what's going to happen between now and 2016. the world could change for all we know. the economic situation would change dramatically. we have no way of knowing. but it's fun to talk about the possibility of hillary clinton running for president -- >> i'm excited about the prospect that she might run again. >> are you surprised the president once again today went to michigan? it looked like a campaign rally. he's out there campaigning now for his position on the fiscal cliff and also campaigning against the anti-union vote that's coming up tomorrow in michigan. >> he certainly owes organized labor. and obviously if you're a democratic president and there's a ballot like this,
when he talked about the popularity of bill clinton. that's not because of the color of clinton's eyes or the cut of his suit suits, that's bought cn had real economic growth that benefited most people. you have to keep your eye on that prize. what is going to be our answer as republicans to the party of raising living standards for most people. >> we have no idea what's going to happen between now and 2016. the world could change for all we know. the economic situation would change...
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take a listen. >> if their competitor in '16 is going to be hillary clinton supported by bill clinton and presumably a still relatively popular barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl, and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> let's talk about this with cnn contributors l.z. granderson and will cain. agree or disagree on gingrich's assessment? >> gingrich sounds like a detroit lions fan. he's so pessimistic heading into the super bowl. i tend to agree. i think a the lot of people i've spoken to inside the administration as well as just kind of political wonks like us, we all think that hillary is going to run and she's going to be an incredible candidate to try to defeat. with that being said, 2016 is a long ways away. we need to get through 2014. we need to get through the fiscal cliff first. i think we're getting ahead of ourselves by saying she's unbeatable, but she's certainly formidable if she decides to run. >> point out that hillary clinton at every step says she's not running. we'll go ahead and talk about it anyway. will,
take a listen. >> if their competitor in '16 is going to be hillary clinton supported by bill clinton and presumably a still relatively popular barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl, and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> let's talk about this with cnn contributors l.z. granderson and will cain. agree or disagree on gingrich's assessment? >> gingrich sounds like a detroit lions fan. he's so pessimistic heading into...
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hillary clinton, the secretary of state, she said the u.s. is prepared, in her words, to take action if the syrian regime, the syrian government of bashar al assad were to use chemical weapons or even move around chemical weapons stockpiles, many of which are near the jordanian border. >> a lot of which is near the jordanian border. we have been aware of this for a while. we're working very, very diligently to monitor that. this is a game changer. >> as far as jordan is concerned -- >> as far as the world is concerned. >> you saw that story in "the atlantic" magazine, they posted it on their website, that israel has asked jordan for permission to go in there and attack those chemical weapons sites in syria. >> i saw the report. i'm not aware of these contacts. but this affects all the countries of the region. it will be a game changer in the sense that the world will not stand still and watch these chemical and by logical weapons being used or the threat of them being used. it is going to be a game changer. so far, the lack of unanimity on ho
hillary clinton, the secretary of state, she said the u.s. is prepared, in her words, to take action if the syrian regime, the syrian government of bashar al assad were to use chemical weapons or even move around chemical weapons stockpiles, many of which are near the jordanian border. >> a lot of which is near the jordanian border. we have been aware of this for a while. we're working very, very diligently to monitor that. this is a game changer. >> as far as jordan is concerned --...
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say that the republicans and i think at the end of the day, they probably will give bill clinton, barack obama his tax increase on the rich, but you know what? we go into 2013 with still a trillion dollar deficit and the question i ask you two and president obama if he were on the show, what's act two? what do we do next? >> you do agree with stephen on one thing and that is that there is some work to be done on inefficient spending? >> the best funding program we have in the government is social security. health care. for every dollar, the other three modern countries spend per capita in other dollar, we spend $2.64 and still have 50 million people without insurance. if we could get france's health care system, widely regarded as the best in the world, we could eliminate 40% of income taxes and still have the same deficit. if you look at the federal budget numbers, the budget is coming way down. the economy is improving. higher tacks allow us to create jobs where people are investing in things that make commerce work better. all private wealth is built on a foundation of commonwealth. i
say that the republicans and i think at the end of the day, they probably will give bill clinton, barack obama his tax increase on the rich, but you know what? we go into 2013 with still a trillion dollar deficit and the question i ask you two and president obama if he were on the show, what's act two? what do we do next? >> you do agree with stephen on one thing and that is that there is some work to be done on inefficient spending? >> the best funding program we have in the...
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mayor clinton? >> probably not. >> new york city is looking for a mayor. >> maybe something with a little more beach front property the next few years before thinking about iowa. >> i don't know. you're watching "starting point." we'll take some guesses. 0 calor? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. point." this just in, a school bus carrying children has crashed into a pole in seminole county, florida. this is from wftv who spoke to the florida highway patrol. troopers told them the children were taken off the bus.
mayor clinton? >> probably not. >> new york city is looking for a mayor. >> maybe something with a little more beach front property the next few years before thinking about iowa. >> i don't know. you're watching "starting point." we'll take some guesses. 0 calor? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools...
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you get to secretary of state hillary clinton warning the u.s. was prepared to act if syria used chemical weapons if they're using them, so then what -- run through possible scenarios for me? >> well, the u.s. always said its red line is the use of chemical weapons. and of course you can imagine that people at the state department and other agencies in washington are very much looking into whether or not syria is simply moving stockpiles around, or preparing for some sort of use. if syria indeed, which is saying it's not going to do, uses the weapons out of desperation, because here you have some rebel strongholds that is not bowing to the syrian regime, despite the fact that it is repeatedly conventionally bombed. when you reach a level where there is desperation for a regime that feels everything around it is crumbling, the question is what will it use in order to try in some desperate last ditch measure to protect itself. that is the concern. the u.s. has always said this is a concern because it is not just within the borders of syria, that it
you get to secretary of state hillary clinton warning the u.s. was prepared to act if syria used chemical weapons if they're using them, so then what -- run through possible scenarios for me? >> well, the u.s. always said its red line is the use of chemical weapons. and of course you can imagine that people at the state department and other agencies in washington are very much looking into whether or not syria is simply moving stockpiles around, or preparing for some sort of use. if syria...
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. >> well, defense of marriage act -- defense of marriage act was signed by president clinton in 1996, and it's a law that says the federal government, all as pecks of the federal government, including the internal revenue service will not recognize same-sex marriages even many states where same-sex marriage is legal and two appeals courts have held that that is unconstitutional, that it is unlawful discrimination. the obama administration agrees that this law is unconstitutional. it's now being defended by a lawyer hired by the house of representatives, and the case about is the defense of marriage act constitutional, that is one. there are several different cases raising that issue that the justices are probably going to decide whether to hear today. >> california's prop 8, what would that entail? >> propositional is a very different case because that's really a more fundamental case that potentially could apply in every state of the union. basically that question is does the constitution require that everyone, gay or straight, has the right to get married, and what makes the propos
. >> well, defense of marriage act -- defense of marriage act was signed by president clinton in 1996, and it's a law that says the federal government, all as pecks of the federal government, including the internal revenue service will not recognize same-sex marriages even many states where same-sex marriage is legal and two appeals courts have held that that is unconstitutional, that it is unlawful discrimination. the obama administration agrees that this law is unconstitutional. it's...